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Monday, September 28, 2009

How much mercury is in Thimerosal?

 What with all teh whatnot about the H1N1 vaccine and it having Thimerosal, I thought I'd address the mercury issue. Now, because of all the misinformation out there, finding actual numbers was difficult, but I did my best.

According to The National Network for Immunization Information, Thimerosal is about 50% mercury, and when used as a preservative, the case in which Thimerosal is highest, makes up about 50 micrograms per half milliliterdose . Half mercury, so 25 micrograms per dose, or 50 micrograms per milliliter.

According to The CDC, the dosage for a normal flu vaccine seems to be 1 mL (two .5 mL doses) (the site shows dosage for a child 36 months to nine years, but not adult dosage, based on other information, I assume the adult dosage is 1 mL). That means the mercury per adult dose of vaccine is 50 micrograms.

Now something to compare to. According to The FDA, canned tuna has an average .353 PPM mercury, or .353 micrograms mercury per gram fish. Doing some math, that's 141 grams of tuna for 50 micrograms mercury. 141 grams is about five ounces. Slightly less than the amount of tuna I use in a typical tuna sandwich.

So there's the math. There's more mercury in a tuna sandwich than there is in a 1 mL shot preserved with Thimerosal.



Edit: It has come to my attention that the mercury in Thimerosal is ethyl mercury (the not so bad mercury) while the mercury in tuna is methyl mercury (the bad mercury). Methyl mercury has a blood mercury half-life of about 44 days, while ethyl mercury's half-life is about 4 days. [source]
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That sucks. I am addicted to tuna sandwiches, casserole, burgers, and melts. Yummy! ♥
Posted 9/28/2009 3:05 PM by online now kkrriiissyy Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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@petitenoirtenue - 

I like tuna as well. My point here is not that the tuna sandwich has mercury, but that Thimerosal is about as potent as a tuna sandwich.
Posted 9/28/2009 3:08 PM by Dargon - recommend - reply

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I caught that. Since I'm not getting the vac. I felt that my tuna sandwich was the more pressing issue. Haha. ♥
Posted 9/28/2009 3:12 PM by online now kkrriiissyy Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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I eat tuna at least 3x a day, I don't wanna know how much mercury is running through my system right now.

Posted 9/28/2009 3:28 PM by Ayliana87 - recommend - reply

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Wow thanks for doing all that homework!
Posted 9/30/2009 9:32 AM by marigold_mom Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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Whoa, that's a warning to me. I found out years ago I am allergic to thimerasol, which was used in some contact lens solutions. So I have avoided it all these years. Now, to hear it has mercury, and is in the H1N1 flu shot! I'll be passing on that. Thanks for your research.
Posted 10/1/2009 3:29 PM by ed408 - recommend - reply

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You seem to have missed the point. If you have a Thimerosal allergy, then that's a legit reason to avoid it. However, vaccines with Thimerosal have a harmless amount of ethyl mercury. Ethyl mercury passes through the body quickly, while methyl stays in longer. A Thimerosal presered vaccine has as much of the not so bad kind of mercury that a tuna sandwich does of the bad stuff.
Posted 10/1/2009 7:50 PM by Dargon - recommend - reply

Thanks for all of the research. I'm just wondering if mercury absorbed orally will have a different affect than mercury injected into the blood stream. It seems that the digestive system could help dilute the potency.
Posted 10/8/2009 9:45 PM by Jason - recommend - reply

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Admittedly I do not know how much would pass through unabsorbed, and it is possible that some would indeed do so. A quick google search shows shows that most is indeed absorbed, though, into the bloodstream where it accumulates in the brain. Again, the mercury in fish is methyl mercury, as opposed to the ethyl mercury in vaccines, and thus still spends less time in the body.
Posted 10/8/2009 10:31 PM by Dargon - recommend - reply

The difference is that your stomach will absorb and excrete 90% of the mercury eaten in tuna - leaving 10% for your bloodstream.  The vaccine will be 100% in to your bloodstream.
Posted 10/19/2009 5:13 PM by MW - recommend - reply

First of all, the flu vaccine is not injected into the bloodstream, it is injected into the muscle.  Second of all, an adult dose is actually .5 mL.  6 mos-35 mos is .25 mL.  Under the age of 10, two doses are required seperated by a 4 week time period.
Posted 10/19/2009 10:28 PM by thatgirl - recommend - reply

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You are indeed correct that the stomach absorbs 90% of the mercury. However, it excretes it into the bloodstream. Furthermore, that which remains tends to get absorbed into the bloodstream later in digestion. Very near 100% of mercury that is eaten is taking into the bloodstream.

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Never said it was injected into the bloodstream, but where do you think it goes from the muscle? The bloodstream, so it still gets there.

With regards to dosage, in terms of vaccines, "dose" is a measure of volume, .50mL. Baby doses are half that. The adult vaccination consists of two doses, or 1 mL.

Your information with regards to children under 10 is correct. Two .50mL doses separated by four weeks.
Posted 10/25/2009 2:24 PM by Dargon - recommend - reply

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In my experience... stuff that gets absorbed by my stomach gets excreted into the toilet. I feel much safer eating a sandwich than having someone inject mercury into me with a needle... muscle injection or not.
Posted 10/29/2009 10:22 AM by TakeoK - recommend - reply

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By the way... Albacore Tuna is much higher than Light Chunk Tuna... and Sushi Grade Tuna takes the cake! Sushi can be as high as 1.4 ppm.
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Good job re reiterating all the points the previous commenter made.

As I addressed with the previous commenter, the 90% that is absorbed by the stomach goes into the bloodstream, it is NOT excreted out.

Second, as stated in my post, the mercury in tuna is methyl mercury, which accumulates in the body, as opposed to ethyl mercury which has a very short in body half life.

I'd be curious to see your source on mercury in other fish. I am aware several other fish have higher mercury content than canned tuna, but I have never seen numbers as large as 1.4 ppm.
Posted 10/29/2009 1:10 PM by Dargon - recommend - reply

@Dargon - 

You are missing an important factor: Seafood has sellenium in it that binds the mercury.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026729_selenium_mercury_tuna.html

The following types of fish have very high Se-HBV, containing between 10 and 25 times as much Selenium than Mercury. High quality servings of the following fish can be expected to lower blood levels of Mercury along with providing a healthy amount of Selenium.

* Yellowfin Tuna
* Albacore Tuna
* Skipjack Tuna
* Mahi Mahi
* Wahoo

Only one fish in the Western Pacific study (Mako shark) showed higher levels of Mercury than Selenium, while one other (Swordfish) had an even, 50/50 ratio of Mercury and Selenium.

Another study by Dr. Nicholas Ralston at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration shows that (southern) Flounder and (wild Pacific) Salmon (including Chinook, Sockeye and Coho) have much more Selenium than Mercury. It also shows that Pilot Whale, Tarpon and most types of Shark should be avoided, with Grouper being about even.

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090922_Mystery_of_fish_mercury_levels_solved.html
Posted 10/29/2009 3:09 PM by Kimberly - recommend - reply

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The 1.4 figure came from an article in the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/dining/23sushi.html?_r=2&pagewanted=2
Posted 10/29/2009 6:53 PM by TakeoK - recommend - reply

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@TakeoK - 



Thank you for the source.

@Kimberly - 



Very interesting, I was unaware of selenium before. I will look more into it. A brief initial google search shows that excessive mercury and selenium together has problems, but not nearly the same as the two individually. Additionally, considering the heavy use of the term "detox" in your first article, I am skeptical of that particular one, but that doesn't mean there isn't some substance to this, especially considering I found reference to selenium on the EPA site as well.
Posted 10/29/2009 6:59 PM by Dargon - recommend - reply

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@Dargon - 



Tuna sandwich vs Thimerosal. Thanks for doing the research (& the math)!

I've seen some reference to selenium's role in the process of excreting heavy metals, but nothing to suggest the ratio of selenium to mercury in the diet is in any way relevant. If you have time to research it, I'd love to see the results. Unfortunately, I've come to suspect anything from NaturalNews. Occasionally I see good articles on there, but the site's editor, "Mike Adams, the Health Ranger," is a sensationalist writer with little regard for research or logic.
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@Dargon - 


NO an adult dose is still .5ml once a year usually
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